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Panos Boudouvas11/12/195 min read

Quality Leaders Forum Raleigh Durham: What are your Greatest Risks in Systems Validation?

John Mandy participated in thousands of audits during his 26-year tenure as a Quality Leader at Pfizer. Early on, Pfizer had thousands of GMP suppliers and CMOs located all over the world. In any given year, Mandy’s audit teams were executing  over a thousand internal and external audits and assessments. But even he was surprised when he was helping a site prepare for a significant re-inspection and had a local QA lead proudly show him a validation qualification for a new paper shredder.  That was just one of many times that he observed teams not taking a risk-based approach to systems validation. 

Members of the Life Sciences Quality Leaders Forum (QLF) met in Durham, North Carolina last week to discuss risk-based systems validation. John Mandy and Tim Reinhardt of RMC, both experts in compliance and quality management systems, moderated roundtable discussions, starting by deconstructing the concept of system validation. 

Mandy and Reinhardt stressed the need for Quality Leaders to ask themselves: Is validation useful? Is it helping your business or is it just a scare tactic? If the latter, how do you know where to draw the line?  They noted that many of their consulting clients believe that there is a higher risk when validating software in general, including electronic quality management systems, but feel this assumption is unwarranted. 

As evidence, the QLF reviewed high level data analysis of all published FDA findings since 2008, which indicate that the incidence of FDA findings related to systems validation is exceedingly low.  In fact out of ~92,000 findings, just 427 findings related to software validation (that’s just 0.5%!). And most of those were companies that just didn’t execute a validation at all, didn’t follow their own procedures or have defined procedures to begin with.  

And yet, regulated companies continue to dedicate significant resources to extensive validation processes of every system they use- up to and including spreadsheets.  Michelle Souder, Senior Manager of Quality Systems at Marken (a UPS company), believes that, “Language is very important- particularly in IT. And the terms validation and qualification are often used interchangeably when they need to be differentiated. Given the high speed at which things change in the tech world, it is challenging to find subject matter experts in these areas that can establish best practices AND speak the language of IT.” 

The advent of Cloud based systems has compounded the problem, since many of the people who are responsible for executing system validations lack expertise with these types of systems. And the SOPs that govern the process often rely on the old/traditional approach to validation that isn’t always relevant to newer, validated SaaS platforms like ZenQMS as an example. 

So how does a company quantify the risk? And what is the risk really based on? Below are the key takeaways from the QLF meeting in North Carolina that try to get at this question:

Follow Your SOPs

The biggest sin specific to validation is that companies don’t follow their own SOP for validation.  Companies are not alone in this sin however, the best evidence being that some of the largest categories of 483 findings in the FDA database revolve around not following procedures or having properly defined procedures in the first place.

Many in the audience pointed to situations where someone inherits or is stuck with poorly written SOPs for validation.  The good news is that this can be addressed! Two key points: 
1. Make sure your SOPs, like one for qualifying new systems, are written and approved by people who will own the process. Get updated advice from experts here-- this is a great example where a couple hours of technical review by a consultant can pay dividends. 
2. SOPs should allow proper instruction for excluding items not relevant to a qualification.  For instance, it shouldn’t be a deviation if you don’t produce a full IQ/OQ/PQ on an already validated SaaS system-- per GAMP 5 Category 4 all you need is a documented risk assessment, documented requirements and appropriate User Acceptance Testing.  

Take a risk-based approach that goes beyond Quality and Compliance risks

Regulators want you take a risk-based approach.  However, John’s story of the manufacturing plant with a full and detailed IQ/OQ/PQ for an office paper shredder makes it evident that despite best intentions we should always stop and think about risk in a practical way.

QA needs to think more holistically about risk for validation to account for Business stage and Capital risks as well as quality, compliance and manufacturing risks.  Logically this means risk assessments should allow all key stakeholders to weigh in. As the scope and possible impact of the underlying item expands, so should the stakeholder cohort.  A good example that was raised was the early stage biopharma company with very limited capital— the focus here should be on attainment of the milestone not validating all systems to the same standards that commercial stage companies do. The risk here is in protocol definition and execution, which largely relies on CROs.  The point here is that you can always update these qualifications of your internal systems as your company matures based on the evolving set of risks your company faces. 

Establish and Defend your Quality Identity

Your quality system is a living/breathing part of your company culture—don’t let it get pushed around to suit a 3rd party’s expectations without good reason and deliberation.  This is most important for GxP service providers who get audited by clients and regulators of varying experience/expectations. Making changes haphazardly will only lead to a disjointed set of processes that won’t hold together and increase the likelihood of mistakes.  Run findings through your Change Control process and contemplate impact and change holistically. And remember it’s ok to say ‘no’ to non-regulatory inspectors with thoughtful justification and to ask for findings to be grounded directly to the relevant regulatory citations.

Make these Validation Documents Easy to Understand and Explain

This seems obvious, but it never really hits home until you take a job at a new company and have to defend existing documentation in the first audit you host- especially if you engage a 3rd party service to do this for you. If you can’t explain and defend a how a critical system was validated/qualified, you leave your company open to findings (from a good auditor) or having a non-expert auditor giving you opinions.  

Join us for future events - apply to become a member of the Life Sciences Quality Leaders Forum today. 

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Panos Boudouvas

Panos started ZenQMS to provide quality professionals better eQMS tools for enhanced compliance at an affordable price. Panos previously served in multiple executive roles at Aptuit, a leading Pharma CRO/CMO. Most recently he was a member of the Executive Committee and Vice President of Operational Excellence responsible for the worldwide launch and management of Aptuit’s LeanSixSigma program as a certified LeanSixSigma Black Belt. Mr. Boudouvas was one of the first employees at Aptuit, leading the corporate development effort through a broad acquisition program. Mr. Boudouvas also served served as Director of Facilities & Capital Development, which included global responsibility for 16 facilities, more than 100 full-time staff members, a ~$50 million annual operating budget and several multi-million dollar facility expansion and maintenance projects. Prior to Aptuit, Mr. Boudouvas served multiple roles in Private Equity and Investment Banking firms, with a focus on the pharmaceutical, healthcare services and technology industries. Panos is an Edward Tuck Scholar from The Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth and holds a BS in Commerce from the McIntire School at the University of Virginia, where he graduated with Distinction

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